Saturday, November 8, 2014

Boondoggle

The CSM Express is now departing.
Very disheartening news on the Kickstarter front. One may quibble over semantics, but it seems that Center Stage Miniature's Tome of Horrors One and Two projects, and CSM itself, stand on the verge of collapse. A third party (Mortal Arrow LLC, established by a backer of the same name) is in negotiations to acquire the company's assets. Under the terms of one proposed resolution backers would then get to buy the minis at reduced cost (a 2 for 1 credit essentially).

Hardly what I signed on for.

I left the following in the TOH1 comment section earlier today:

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I've been watching this slow-motion train-wreck and withholding comment until I had something constructive to contribute. While that hasn't happened, I'll comment anyway.

@Ruth Philips: I shared your friends' misgivings re TOH2 but ignored the red flags and pledged anyway. In fact, I'm in deeper on TOH 2 than TOH1. Hindsight being 20/20, I now see that I was guilty of willful ignorance. I have no one to blame but myself for my involvement in TOH2.

I apologize to anyone whose backing of TOH2 was substantially influenced by my enthusiastic support of the project here, in the TOH2 comment section, and elsewhere.

It occurs to me that Matt might actually be paying the lawyer MA mentions with funds from TOH1&2. All that to negotiate a deal detrimental to those projects' backers. How's that for irony?

I fully expect that I'm wrong on the above point, but given the complete breakdown in communications one is left to speculation. There's nothing like being played for a chump to lead ones mind down dark and unexpected paths.

As for any resolution that leaves Matt obligated to fulfill TOH1&2 commitments, what can be said? I'm sure he'll take such obligations as seriously as he has taken others to date.

I apologize further if the above seems disjointed or excessively caustic. I've not commented in a while and felt the need to vent a bit.

@Mortal Arrow: Thank you for becoming involved. I see you've been accused of being a capitalist. You should wear that as a badge of honor. Had a certain unnamed party gone into this endeavor with more of a capitalistic impulse we might not be in our current predicament.

As you might imagine, I'm not enthusiastic about paying again for something I've already paid for. (and yes, I appreciate that Kickstarters are inherently speculative in nature, not merely pre-order schemes.) That said, my enthusiasm isn't especially relevant here. What is at issue is what can be salvaged from this sorry situation.

Bottom line: I'm inclined to think that your 2 for 1 credit proposal is acceptable assuming that it may be applied to TOH1&2 minis and that said minis will become available in short order.

I'll reserve further comment until a certain unnamed party deigns to descend from Mount Olympus and treat with mere mortals.

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Someday my flumphs will come... or not

I used this blog as a platform to promote both projects and apologize to anyone persuaded to support either or both as a result. This applies especially to TOH2, where my enthusiasm for the project caused me to ignore the little voice in my head urging that all was not well.

In retrospect, one should NEVER back a project created by someone who has yet to fulfill one or more other projects. Lesson learned... at considerable expense.

18 comments:

  1. This post explains a lot. I have been checking the CSM website from time to time now for a few months looking for the TOH minis to show up, as your endorsement of them had me interested. I am very sorry to hear that you're out some dough- I certainly hope we all get to see some flumphs in these parts one day. Good luck.

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    1. Thanks, VK. I must confess that I'm developing a Captain Ahab-like obsession with getting decent flumphs to paint. Someday perhaps.

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  2. Gutted for you Finch. Been seen off at least once (probably twice if the latest comments on another of my KS pledges is anything to go by) so only now go with those who have a proven track record (e.g. Mantic, Meridian Miniatures, or Ramshackle Games). Hadn't heard of TOH/2 until your posting but I can see why you'd want the minis - very nice designs. With a lick of paint from your brush and they'd have looked staggeringly good too :-)

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    1. That so many of the subjects were straight from the old Fiend Folio really appealed to me.

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    1. Agreed. This dark cloud has no silver lining.

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  4. Sorry to hear this, I've been lucky not been hit yet, even with the pre kickstarter stuff. With luck you'll see some return.

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    1. Thanks, Ant Master. Under-promise and over-deliver is the relevant expression, I believe. There's one project on the horizon whose creator previously lived up to that standard and consequently may rely on my support. I'm also waiting for another long-delayed project to deliver on its commitments. Beyond that, I may be done with all this crowdfunding nonsense.

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  5. Sorry to hear you got stung mate.

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    1. Thanks, Simon. I was partly saved by the fact that a couple of the sculptors involved with the projects weren't to my liking. I didn't go all-in so as to avoid their work and focus on the stuff that I liked (of which there was plenty). I stand to loose a tidy sum but it could have been much worse had I taken the bait "hook, line, and sinker".

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  6. Very sad to hear about your's and the Kickstarters problems. I won't pretend to know anything about Kickstarter, as I don't.

    I know Pendraken Miniatures operate their own scheme for crowdfunding, but what they do is only offer the chance to pledge after the whole range has been designed and cast, so they are solely looking to seek a return on their investment in good time as opposed to how Kickstarters normally work. Obviously this method isn't available to most companies or individuals, but I only mention as some reading may consider this another option, which would somewhat safe-guard pledges and enthuse backers.

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    1. Your condolences are much appreciated, Roy.

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  7. Bad times dude, bad times! Like the DUDE you must abide.

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    1. The Dude abides and so must I.

      Or to paraphrase Lone Watie of Josie Wales fame... I shall endeavor to persevere.

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  8. I am so through with kickstarters, if they cant produce the funds on their own than so be it...my last supported KS (Fractured Dimensions) is late and the owner is terrible with communication, like many of these start ups they do not belong running a business they should require an online business class before approving further funding projects, because 75% or more need it.

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    1. I hear you. And I'm in on Fractured Dimensions too.

      I've heard Brett's had issues responding to emails but his updates have been pretty regular.

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  9. Sorry to hear of this news Finch ... well Karma's a bitch and she will get her revenge sure enough.

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    1. Thanks, 4EM. I was going with voodoo for my revenge but perhaps I should give Karma first dibs.

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